AMD RYZEN 5 3500 fast exclusive |
Posted: May 7, 2024 |
Hi all! I have managed to get my hands on a lot of interesting devices. Video cards, monitors, headphones, mice, portable consoles. But today we have a special guest - the exclusive amd ryzen 5 3500 processor.
I think it’s no secret that I have tender feelings for AMD products, and even though sometimes to achieve the ideal result you need to show a non-standard approach and ingenuity, the philosophy of the company, which does not limit its users to artificial limits and is more customer-oriented than its competitor, always captivated me. So when the opportunity arose to try the new product with my own hands, I couldn’t say no. So what kind of beast is this AMD RYZEN 5 3500 and will it find its buyer? Let's figure it out. Let's start a little from afar. As many already know, by introducing the Ryzen Zen architecture line of processors to the market, AMD was able to present a very unpleasant surprise to its competitor. Once again, AMD was able to overcome the stagnation and move the process forward. Users now have at their disposal a powerful, productive hardware with a large number of cores, and the word “multi-threading” has become increasingly popular. But the most important thing is that the price of processors was very affordable and now it was possible to assemble a relatively powerful system for a reasonable price. It is also worth adding here the absence of leapfrog with changing sockets and artificial limitation of the overclocking potential of the “stones”. Ryzen stones, thanks to SMT technology, just like Bane to Batman, broke the back of their “blue” brothers and became a panacea for those who worked in applications that required multi-threading. Yes, it was not without its drawbacks. In games, where traditionally the power of a single core still dominates their number, Ryzen was inferior to its counterparts from the “blue” giant, and the greater capriciousness in choosing RAM pushed many potential buyers away from AMD products. But this is a “red” giant, and I think you remember about the lack of restrictions for the user, which was mentioned above. It was empirically noticed that the Infinity Fabric bus, which was a bottleneck in the architecture, even managed to be a plus. By increasing the RAM frequency, it was possible to increase processor performance by a third, which is quite a lot. And in games the difference was invisible to the naked eye. The “blue” “stones” were still out of reach, but the picture was still much rosier, and the power of multithreading had not disappeared anywhere. Users unanimously voted with their wallets and sales began to grow. And the AMD 5 1600 processor has generally become popular. The release of the two-thousandth Ryzen series processors on the 12-nm process technology (the first generation was on 14-nm) further strengthened the position of the “red” company. The Zen+ architecture was a lot of work on bugs and many controversial issues of the previous generation were eliminated. The performance of processors has increased by about a third and the “stones” have become a little less capricious to RAM. The competitor, who had been resting on his laurels all this time, became even closer, sales of Ryzen “stones” were growing and the three thousandth series on the Zen 2 architecture was being prepared for release, which was the last straw. To say that the announcement and then presentations of the new generation of Ryzen caused a sensation is the same as remaining silent. News poured out of a cornucopia. Like an experienced professional boxer, AMD calmly and accurately struck at the competitor's most painful points. Preservation of the previous socket, almost complete preservation of backward compatibility with boards of previous generations. Presentation of a new chipset with PCI-e 4.0 support for those who want more. Performance has increased significantly compared to the previous generation of Ryzen. The Zen 2 architecture was literally a revelation - a 7-nm process technology, albeit with a number of compromises for accelerated launch into series. Single-threaded power has increased, becoming comparable, and in some places superior to the competitor, while Ryzen’s proprietary strength in multi-threaded tasks has not gone away, and professionals have affordable processors, without the need to purchase specialized solutions on a non-standard socket. AMD clearly took into account its mistakes and the Ryzen 3000 series continued the work begun by its predecessors. And most importantly, the Infinity Fabric was finally optimized, the processors became less capricious with respect to RAM, and modules that previously pushed themselves to 3200 MHz easily reached 3600 MHz with the Ryzen 3000 series. AMD engineers have done serious work and achieved good results. We also add here the increased volume of the L3 cache along with a twofold expansion of the block of floating point operations, and we get a nuclear mixture. Not only are Ryzens of previous generations no longer as powerful compared to new products, but even competitors no longer have any trump cards in their stock. We add here AMD’s traditional adequate pricing policy and we get a processor masterpiece. The Ryzen 5 3600, like its brothers before it, became a popular processor and even more people began to lean towards assembly on the AM4 socket. The small problem with automatically increasing the processor frequency was resolved in the latest AGESA update and I think you are already pretty bored with this whole story and it’s time to move on to our guest. Until recently, AMD had the 5 3600 with 6 cores and 12 threads as its junior model, but after studying the market and noticing the still high popularity of the Core i5-9400 and i5-9400F processors, it decided to play in this field. Since it is not always wise to immediately revise the policy globally for such a large company, the decision was made to make regional changes. AMD is a very flexible corporation in this regard, and therefore alternatives to six-core processors from the “blue” quickly appeared for use in assemblies of inexpensive gaming systems. These models became the Ryzen 5 3500X and Ryzen 5 3500. So how do these regional processors differ? In the Ryzen 5 3500 and 3500X, in software, SMT technology was disabled from the factory, that is, each core of the Ryzen 5 3500X and Ryzen 5 3500 can execute only one computational thread, and not a pair. But don't worry. Firstly, games are still more sensitive to core power, but regional exclusives are okay with this and are no different in this regard from their older counterparts; secondly, their “blue” counterparts also do not have Hyper-Threading support. The difference between the Ryzen 3500X and 3500 lies, contrary to tradition, not in different clock speeds, but in the volume of the L3 cache. For the exclusive version, it is reduced from 32 to 16 MB, which is sad, because one of the significant features of the three thousandth series was the increased L3 cache. But we have what we have. Those hungry for 32 MB of L3 cache know what to do, and the rest continue reading. I should note that despite the reduction, the cache is still fast and I did not feel any discomfort while using the processor. But the question remains open whether such regional processors with partially clipped wings are worth attention, since there are representatives of the previous generation at a reduced price. Well, I'll try to answer it. My opinion, which is not the ultimate truth, is yes. The 3500 series has its place and can be considered for purchase. We get a 7-nm technical process, powerful cores, we forget about dancing with a tambourine in choosing the right RAM, everything runs without much witchcraft. Affordable price, small thermal package and best performance in games. Yes, we are losing in multi-threading compared to previous generations, but there are not many games that fully use it, and at the moment inexpensive builds on the 3500 and 3500X are quite possible. Moreover, after installing the new BIOS firmware, the Ryzen 5 3500 fits perfectly into motherboards on chipsets other than the X570 and honestly delivers the stated 4100 MHz on the X470 motherboard from GIGABYTE; moreover, the processor stably maintains 4 GHz without much overvoltage. The Wrath Max cooler shows 37 degrees when the CPU is idle, rising to 45 when the boost is turned on to 4 GHz and reaching 75-80 degrees under load. Moreover, I was lucky with the “stone” and it can even be overclocked. The maximum reached was 4.2 GHz, but blue screens occurred periodically; after all, a more serious level of cooling is needed here, perhaps a double tower. From the reviews of other owners of this processor, you can see that with overclocking everything was more sad. Perhaps there is a use of rejecting “stones” from older models. Of course, this is not a lottery with locked Phenom cores, as in the past, but there is a chance to get a very good processor with overclocking potential. Although this is at the level of rumors. Yes, AMD in this case, one might say, deviated from the rule that it previously adhered to in the form of providing more threads for a price lower than Intel, but from a gaming point of view this processor is an excellent option. Yes, we have lost in versatility, but at the same time we have gained a “stone” that retains most of the advantages of the Zen 2 architecture and, thanks to its affordable price, it may well find a home in some budget build on the B350, X370, B450 or even the X470 chipset . You can, of course, even mess with plugging it into the X570, but my opinion is that I don’t see much point in this, but who’s stopping you? Traditionally, I ran the processor a little in synthetics, played around with overclocking the RAM, I must note that for my HyperX strips, which were “lucky” to come across Nanya chips, the results came out quite good. And if on the Ryzen 5 1600 my ceiling was 3266 MHz at 16 timings, then in the case of the Ryzen 5 3500 the same strips on the same board easily reached 3600 at 18 timings. Cinebench, as well as the built-in benchmarks in CPU-z and Aida 64, also showed a significant difference between generations of AMD processors. Not without 7-zip and Chrome. In typical tasks, everything is fine and six cores with six threads are quite enough for comfortable use of the computer. But in the use of applications and specialized software, as well as attempts to load the processor with many tasks, the picture already changes somewhat. The lack of streams is beginning to be felt, although compared to its “blue” counterparts, everything is less sad. As a result, if you choose a processor with an eye toward creating content and solving resource-intensive tasks, then it is better to pay attention to the previous generation Ryzen. Unfortunately, these new products without SMT are less tailored for streaming and video content. But we’re not just here to talk about synthetic numbers. We have a gaming system, so it's time to look into the games. Today we are testing the new Need for Speed ??Heat, Final Fantasy XV, Total War: Three Kingdoms, Watch Dogs 2. PC configuration: Processor: AMD Ryzen 5 1600 - 3.8 Ghz / AMD Ryzen 5 3500 in stock Motherboard: GIGABYTE X470 Aorus Ultra Gaming (AM4) ???: 16Gb DDR4 3200MHZ / 3600MHz HyperX Fury (KHX2666C16/8G) (2x8Gb KIT)16-16-16-16-36 / 18-18-18-18-38 Video card: GTX 1060 GIGABYTE G1 (6GB) ??: Deepcool DA-650 650W Software: OS: Windows 10 Pro x64 1903 (18362.449) Video card driver: GeForce Game Ready Driver 441.20 Settings: I launched all game projects in Full-HD and turned up the processor-dependent settings to the maximum so as not to limit the performance of the video card. Need for Speed Heat In the new part of the racing franchise from Electronic Arts, at maximum settings, the representative of the older generation Ryzen showed stable 60-70 FPS, while his young brother was not ashamed to produce 80, and in some places even 90 FPS. Final Fantasy XV In the currently last part of the single-player Final, the Ryzen 5 1600 produced 50-60 frames, while the newcomer was easily able to produce 70-80 frames in stock. Total War: Three Kingdoms In the still graphically attractive strategy about Ancient China, we get 80 FPS on the old Ryzen 5 1600 and 76 FPS on the Ryzen 5 3500, respectively. In this case, a larger number of threads made the difference. Watch Dogs 2 In a game that is well known for its uncontrollable appetite for processors, we get 65 FPS for the Ryzen 5 1600 and 60 FPS for the Ryzen 5 3500. Once again, the old man wins. In traditional games, the new processor is superior to its ancestor, in some places significantly, but in games that can work with multi-threading, such as Watch Dogs 2 and Total War: Three Kingdoms, the difference between the Ryzen 5 3500 and the Ryzen 5 1600 already changes in favor of the latter. Although it should be noted that the Ryzen 5 1600 was overclocked, and in the stock version the gap would be even more significant. In general, we can summarize that if your PC activities are not related to the need to actively use the multi-threaded functions of the processor in specialized applications, and your interests are limited to games and household tasks, then the exclusive Ryzen 5 3500 is not the worst purchase. For a reasonable price, you'll get shameless performance in most games and good heart for a budget gaming build. Although I cannot help but note that from the perspective of the movement of games towards multi-threading, the presence of an SMT processor can turn from a pleasant bonus into a necessity. But these are all matters of the days to come. Currently, the Ryzen 5 3500 allows you to play modern games without experiencing discomfort and receiving most of the bonuses characteristic of the Zen 2 architecture at an affordable price, which is a small price to pay for high performance in games. That's all for me. See you again and play good games on the right hardware.
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